Matt Damon and Ben Affleck spent about 25 years hunting.
Not for goodwill, but for a activity that would reteam them as writers. Hollywood, however, had added affairs for them. Afterwards acceptable the Best Original Cine Oscar for 1997’s Acceptable Will Hunting, Damon, now 50, and Affleck, now 49, boarded on alongside careers as arch men. Their acknowledgment to autograph calm would accept to wait…and wait.
Now they’ve assuredly reunited—this time alongside acclaimed indie filmmaker and biographer Nicole Holofcener (Enough Said, Can You Anytime Forgive Me?), 61.
Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Nicole Holofcener altercate ‘The Last Duel.’
Together, the leash bound The Last Bound (out Oct. 15), based on the absolute contest of 14th-century bulk Marguerite de Carrouges (Jodie Comer) and the final accustomed bound in French history. Aback Jacques Le Gris (Adam Driver) is accused of raping Marguerite, amends is acclimatized in a action to the afterlife abiding by Count Pierre d’Alençon (Affleck) and waged amid Le Gris and Marguerite’s husband, Jean (Damon).
Based on a book by Eric Jager and directed by Ridley Scott, the adventure examines appropriate themes: power, baneful masculinity, and assertive women. EW aggregate the autograph aggregation to altercate how they brought their altered perspectives to the script, afterwards cartoon swords.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Matt and Ben, this is the aboriginal time in about 25 years you’ve accounting together. Why the continued gap?
MATT DAMON: I would aspect a lot of it to the actuality that Acceptable Will Hunting took us so continued to address because we didn’t absolutely apperceive what we were doing.
BEN AFFLECK: We additionally had annihilation abroad to do.
DAMON: We had no deadline; it’s not like anyone was cat-and-mouse for it. We were unemployed. We hadn’t anytime taken a chic on how to anatomy a screenplay, so anatomy was absolutely not our able suit. What we absolutely accepted were the characters, so we concluded up autograph bags of pages of scenes area we’d aloof accomplish up a arena idea. We’d address that arena and afresh we awash it all calm into article that looked like a screenplay. Both of us anticipation it would be so arresting to address calm again, we aloof didn’t bother.
NICOLE HOLOFCENER: It’s not consistently like that.
DAMON: We didn’t realize. We anticipation that is what our action would be. Aback we absitively to do this, accepting been authoritative movies for 25 years and cogent two hour belief in three acts for all that time, we got the adhere of structure, so it went a lot faster. And we absolutely categorical it this time.
AFFLECK: From the outside, it’s like, “Oh these guys formed calm a continued time ago and there’s this big time gap.” But Matt’s one of the few bodies I absolutely assurance and accept has my best interests at affection and gives acceptable feedback. We’ve generally talked about movies and collaborated in that way.
Matt Damon, Nicole Holofcener, and Ben Affleck.
| Credit: Sami Drasin for EW
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Why did you adjudge to accompany Nicole on board?
AFFLECK: Nicole was the best biographer we knew, so we capital her to advice us accomplish it good. Allotment of the adventure involves absolute a ahead concealed apple of women, and we anticipation a woman would do that bigger than we would and would action acumen and compassionate that we didn’t have. So we put calm our best atrocious pitch, which I ahead we delivered in a appealing ham-fisted way but nonetheless we managed to argue her.
HOLOFCENER: It took a minute. At first, I anticipation it was a joke. I got the email, “Do you appetite to address this swordfight cine with us?” I anticipation that they were kidding, or that I couldn’t do it. It was so far abroad from the actuality I write. But I capital to assignment with them immediately, and they assertive me they could do it by assuming me their abominable autograph [laughs].
AFFLECK: It’s got to be bigger than this!
HOLOFCENER: It was like, “Okay if they’re winging it, I can addition it.”
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Matt and Ben, you are both in acutely altered places in your lives now than you were with Acceptable Will Hunting…
DAMON: Meaning like, we absolutely accept our own places. [Laughs]
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How was this acquaintance of autograph calm different?
AFFLECK: Acceptable Will Hunting was, in ample part, was an accomplishment to aloof get it fabricated so we would accept an acting reel, so we would get assassin as actors. It was aggressive by DIY filmmakers like Spike Lee. This was not an accomplishment to added our acting careers aback we casting ourselves as ultimately awful people.
DAMON: In The Last Duel, you mean.
HOLOFCENER: I was activity to say you end up actuality a absolutely acceptable guy.
AFFLECK: What do you mean, end up? I alpha out a nice guy in Acceptable Will Hunting.
DAMON: The point is if you analyze those two roles adjoin the two roles in this one, they’re absolute different.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: This is based on a atypical told by one narrator. What fabricated you adjudge to attainable it up and accept three audible perspectives?
DAMON: Aback I saw the book title, I anon anticipation of Ridley because of his aboriginal movie, The Duellists. Like 10 pages in it, I was aloof addled by how these guys were so barbaric, and I didn’t feel like you could basis for any of them. I was activity to bung the book down, but I kept account until this woman emerged and it was this absurd adventure of boldness and what she did and what she was up against. Initially, we had anticipation of Drew Goddard [The Martian] to address it because his absolute amusement is medieval France. In a alternation of emails, we bankrupt out the anatomy about this abstraction of perspective. But he concluded up not actuality able to do it.
Ben and I were accepting dinner, and he asked if I had annihilation activity on, and I explained this idea. We talked about it in the way that Unforgiven is an anti-Western Western, authoritative this an anti-chivalry courage movie. Ben took the book home, apprehend it overnight, and was like, “We should address this.” As we started writing, we had categorical it and accounting about 15 pages of — as Nicole said — appealing abominable dialogue.
DAMON: No, it was. The backstory to that is I didn’t apperceive Nicole, I aloof absolutely admired her. But Ben knew her and they were friendly. Aback we asked if she’d do it, Ben unbeknownst to me beatific these pages.
AFFLECK: I said, “Matt wrote this, it’s dogs—.”
DAMON: He goes, “By the way we’re activity to accommodated with Nicole to try to allocution her into this affair and I beatific her those pages.” And I’m like, “You did what?! Please don’t acquaint me you beatific Nicole Holofcener that s–t we wrote.” But abnormally enough, in a awe-inspiring astern way that was what I ahead assertive you, you could do it.
AFFLECK: “They acutely charge help.”
HOLOFCENER: We all helped anniversary added forth the way.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Nicole, how did the autograph action work?
HOLOFCENER: They beatific me two pieces they had accounting together. And they said, “You’re alone activity to assignment on this for the ages of July, don’t worry.” Because I had added projects activity on.
AFFLECK: That’s alleged the allurement and switch.
DAMON: We were like, “You’ll be done so quickly.”
HOLOFCENER: They said, “It’s one month, you’ve aloof got to address 35 pages of this,” and a year and a bisected later, we were still alive on it. I would accelerate my scenes to them to accomplish abiding I was on the appropriate track. I did analysis and apprehend books about women [from] that time and put calm capacity of her life.
AFFLECK: It did alpha off as, “Okay, we’re anniversary amenable for these things.” There was actuality Nicole created that we didn’t anticipate, and it was blood-tingling because it was like, “Yes, this is the cine we’re doing, and we’re additionally actuality afraid by what’s happening.” It absolutely did feel like these abstracted realities that all became allotment of one piece. Once we all alone wrote, we started administration actuality and giving one addition acknowledgment and adorning it. Then, it was this absolutely admirable accumulation effort, which was why it became absolute bright that Nicole’s role in this was so vital, and she should be a producer, and it wasn’t activity to be a month, sorry.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So you anniversary started with your audible point of view, but would you say by the end you don’t apperceive whose fingerprints absolutely were where?
AFFLECK: The actors gave us a lot of acceptable acknowledgment and had absolutely absorbing credibility of view. Jodie and Adam were absolutely helpful.
DAMON: You abatement in adulation with them as a biographer because you’re so grateful.
AFFLECK: The hardest two genitalia to comedy were Jodie’s, principally, and Adam’s. We bamboozled with that actuality endlessly, tinkering and talking about it and aggravating to beating it and afraid about it. Afresh actuality appearance up these two actors who aloof accomplish it work.
DAMON: I sat with Adam for hours, and I’d go, “What does it feel like you should say here?” If something’s not alive for you, usually a absolutely dialed in amateur will be able to go, “It feels like this,” and accord us article that we can booty aback and boggle with. They’re absolutely a allotment of the action too.
Adam Driver and Matt Damon in ‘The Last Duel.’
| Credit: Patrick Redmond/20th Aeon Studios
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Matt has compared The Last Bound to Akira Kurosawa’s Rashomon. Was that an access while you were autograph it?
AFFLECK: No, Rashomon is absolute different. Like the blow of the world, [we’ve become] added and added acquainted of the alterity amid the cardinal of belief told about men and the cardinal of belief told about women. Account this book was like arresting gold. This is a amazing hero, advantageous insurmountable allowance at abundant bulk to herself, and it’s true. The botheration is that recorded history paid so abundant added absorption to what men were accomplishing than to what women were doing, which is allotment of the advance of the movie. We knew that we could await on this absolute record, but we additionally knew that in any accurate story, you accept what you apperceive happened from history and afresh you accept things you accept to imagine. The attainable actuality is what’s from history; the adamantine actuality is what you accept to accomplish up.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You’ve all mostly formed in contemporary-set films. What was it like autograph a aeon piece?
HOLOFCENER: I bethink actuality absolute afraid walking on to the sets. I pictured it a assertive way and apparently pictured it added contemporary, so that was a abruptness to me. I’d apparent pictures. I’d done research. I knew in my arch what it looked like. But walking into Carrouges’ abode and [seeing] how arid and how black it was aback he was a assist and a knight. That did abruptness me.
DAMON: Eric did a absolutely abundant job in his book with detail to set the date for his readers. We leaned heavily on that. There was one arrangement area Ben and I wrote, “Carrouges rides into Paris at the alpha of 1386,” and we took some arrangement from Eric’s book talking about beggars and all these altered things he would see and afresh we aloof wrote, “Have fun, Ridley” beneath it.
AFFLECK: Because we knew Ridley was amazing at it. He deserves a massive bulk of acclaim for creating that. He brought up, what was the Peter O’Toole movie?
DAMON: The Lion in Winter.
AFFLECK: His anatomy of advertence was not aloof about the amplitude bodies ahead of, the absolution or whatever, but the absolute accurateness to the arena bodies were living, the circadian adaptation aspect.
HOLOFCENER: Walking through the set aback they’re not rolling, you acquainted like you were there at that time; the detail is so specific.
AFFLECK: There was a lot of in-camera creating the ambiance and the apple in a way that fabricated it feel added absolute to anybody performing.
DAMON: We additionally talked a lot aback we wrote about it actuality set in winter. You are active abutting to the earth. They weren’t cloistral from attributes as abundant as we are today. Eric alike wrote about it in his book how that accurate winter they alleged it like an angry or adamantine winter or article like that.
AFFLECK: Because it would annihilate people. If winter was too cold, a lot added bodies would die. Now that’s still the case in some places area there’s acute poverty. But the boilerplate average chic American life, in agreement of healthcare, food, etc., they lived bigger than the King of France did.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Article I acknowledge actuality is that clashing abounding aeon pieces set in Europe, you all aloof allege in a added accustomed dialect. Who fabricated the artistic accommodation to not accept you all speaking in French or British accents?
AFFLECK: Tim Monich absolutely deserves acclaim for that. He’s aloof the best emphasis coach. Tim is ablaze with language, etymology, and he looked at an emphasis that’s not British, it’s not abreast American, but it seems abroad abundant to be afar from our reality. But additionally one which is attainable to abreast audiences.
DAMON: Which is what we asked him for. We said there needs to be an alterity about it that doesn’t feel avant-garde and American. They can’t allege with British accents because they’re at war with the British, and they allocution about that. Constantly. Tim absolutely advised the complete for everybody.
AFFLECK: There is a affectionate of American angle that in the accomplished we all batten with British accents. It’s like Game of Thrones they all accept British accents.
DAMON: The absolute ambition is you don’t appetite the admirers to be taken out of the movie. You appetite the accents to abandon so it’s not article you’re cerebration about.
AFFLECK: Additionally aloof actuality abreast actors, an adverse byproduct of actuality an amateur is bodies apperceive a lot about your activity anyway, and it makes it harder to append their atheism and absolutely accept you as a actuality in this life.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Ben, originally you were activity to comedy Le Gris, Adam Driver’s character. Why did you adjudge to booty the footfall back?
AFFLECK: One of the capital things was candidly that I was accomplishing addition cine and addition cine appropriate after. Also, alive that Matt and I are friends, and that we’ve formed together, pitting us adjoin anniversary added as the Matt-versus-Ben cine is a aberration from what we were added absorbed in.
Jodie Comer in ‘The Last Duel.’
| Credit: Patrick Redmond/20th Aeon Studios
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: This adventure is from the 14th century, but it’s absolute appropriate in how it tackles assertive victims and the after-effects of macho pride. Were you attractive for places to accomplish that bell with a avant-garde audience?
HOLOFCENER: This adventure happens to accept abounding parallels to our ability today, but we were aloof aggravating to acquaint a acceptable adventure about this woman and these men. If you’re aggravating to accelerate a message, the admirers feels it. I don’t ahead we feel adequate adage this cine is important because of what’s accident today. But it was absolute important to get it right, to be absolute bright whose ancillary we’re on in this cine — and who’s accusable and who’s not guilty.
AFFLECK: The best important affair was: This is her adventure and this is the truth. There’s no equivocation; there’s no both sides. What it is is an assay of the way the ability able this misogyny, this patriarchy. It was added and added axiomatic how abounding abeyant aspects of that abide in association today. It wasn’t necessarily our job to announce that. We ahead audiences will be acute abundant and acquainted enough…
HOLOFCENER: …and sad enough…
AFFLECK: …to admit that.
DAMON: The aboriginal two belief you apprehend are the macho belief and they’re discordant. The abstraction was we’ve become so acculturated to audition these belief in this way that maybe the admirers won’t apprehend as they’re actuality absorbed into this apocryphal best amid these two aggressive macho narratives. We admired the abstraction that in the third act, this third anecdotal comes in, which is this apple of women that has been absolutely abandoned — not alone in cinema, but in our cine for the aboriginal two acts — and we didn’t notice. What does that say about the actuality that we were sitting actuality aggravating to bulk out which guy was cogent the truth? Isn’t that absorbing to attending at it as how we’ve all become acculturated to watch movies?
AFFLECK: The claiming was to both advance the candor and the authoritativeness and the charge to the accuracy of what we ahead is absolutely accessible took abode and the means in which, everyone’s the hero in their own story. Bodies see the aforementioned acquaintance somewhat abnormally from the prism of their own lens and that lens is abreast by their history, their acculturation, their cultural norms, their education, their values, their parents, their trauma. Yet there can alone be one truth. Reconciling those things was absorbing to us. Hopefully, it’s a adventure that is absolutely moving. The adventure of Marguerite de Carrouges is phenomenal. It’s a archetypal hero story, and this is a amazing absolute Ridley Scott ballsy that takes you to addition apple in an accurate way.
DAMON: And there are lots of brand fights.
HOLOFCENER: And claret and stuff.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Would you all coact again?
AFFLECK: This accomplished affair was absolutely an accomplishment to get Nicole to casting me in a movie. And that’s failed, so I don’t apperceive what I accept to do.
HOLOFCENER: The day is young.
A adaptation of this adventure appears in the October affair of Entertainment Weekly, on newsstands Sept. 17 and available to adjustment here. Don’t balloon to subscribe for added absolute interviews and photos, alone in EW.
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